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[fedora-arm] Fedora26 image size
Robert Moskowitz
2017-04-03 19:32:04 UTC
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Back home where my pile of 8 and 16 GB mSD cards are. So I can do an
image install to see how large the image actually is...

Disk /dev/sdb: 7.4 GiB, 7969177600 bytes, 15564800 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xd7636468

Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1 2048 61439 59392 29M c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdb2 * 61440 1060863 999424 488M 83 Linux
/dev/sdb3 1060864 2060287 999424 488M 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb4 2060288 7919615 5859328 2.8G 82 Linux swap / Solaris


Could you possibly reduce the size of the / partition so that the total
image is a bit smaller?

Your image requires a 3.95GB mSD card. 7919615 512 byte sectors to be
exact (or at least with the server image).

I have LOTS of 4GB in the 3.8GB size. For example the one I had with my
traveling last week is 7774208 512 byte sectors.

It is not like you have filled the / partition; there is unused space.
It would make your claim that a 4GB mSD card can be used for the image
install more likely to be true.

Or just state that better use work with a 8GB mSD card to avoid possible
overwrite errors.

My 2c worth.

Oh, and interesting that F24 fdisk reports the xfs partition as swap?

Robert
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Andrew Gillis
2017-04-03 20:15:01 UTC
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This is fairly easy to do yourself. Just loop mount the partition from the
image and reduce the size. I have mine down to under 3GB,

-Andrew
Back home where my pile of 8 and 16 GB mSD cards are. So I can do an image
install to see how large the image actually is...
Disk /dev/sdb: 7.4 GiB, 7969177600 bytes, 15564800 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xd7636468
Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1 2048 61439 59392 29M c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdb2 * 61440 1060863 999424 488M 83 Linux
/dev/sdb3 1060864 2060287 999424 488M 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb4 2060288 7919615 5859328 2.8G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
Could you possibly reduce the size of the / partition so that the total
image is a bit smaller?
Your image requires a 3.95GB mSD card. 7919615 512 byte sectors to be
exact (or at least with the server image).
I have LOTS of 4GB in the 3.8GB size. For example the one I had with my
traveling last week is 7774208 512 byte sectors.
It is not like you have filled the / partition; there is unused space. It
would make your claim that a 4GB mSD card can be used for the image install
more likely to be true.
Or just state that better use work with a 8GB mSD card to avoid possible
overwrite errors.
My 2c worth.
Oh, and interesting that F24 fdisk reports the xfs partition as swap?
Robert
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Robert Moskowitz
2017-04-03 23:29:05 UTC
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True, first you have to uncompress it, the work with the image. Than do
the install script manually.

but I am asking for a global change on koji.

that way the installer script works with images to more 4GB mSD cards.
Post by Andrew Gillis
This is fairly easy to do yourself. Just loop mount the partition from
the image and reduce the size. I have mine down to under 3GB,
-Andrew
Back home where my pile of 8 and 16 GB mSD cards are. So I can do
an image install to see how large the image actually is...
Disk /dev/sdb: 7.4 GiB, 7969177600 bytes, 15564800 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xd7636468
Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1 2048 61439 59392 29M c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdb2 * 61440 1060863 999424 488M 83 Linux
/dev/sdb3 1060864 2060287 999424 488M 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb4 2060288 7919615 5859328 2.8G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
Could you possibly reduce the size of the / partition so that the
total image is a bit smaller?
Your image requires a 3.95GB mSD card. 7919615 512 byte sectors
to be exact (or at least with the server image).
I have LOTS of 4GB in the 3.8GB size. For example the one I had
with my traveling last week is 7774208 512 byte sectors.
It is not like you have filled the / partition; there is unused
space. It would make your claim that a 4GB mSD card can be used
for the image install more likely to be true.
Or just state that better use work with a 8GB mSD card to avoid
possible overwrite errors.
My 2c worth.
Oh, and interesting that F24 fdisk reports the xfs partition as swap?
Robert
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603-488-0617
Robert Nelson
2017-04-04 01:27:41 UTC
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microSD card's between manufactures vary way to much (even between
lots), for BeagleBoard.org we eventually settled on 85% of stated
size.

dd if=/dev/zero of="${media}" bs=1024 count=0 seek=$((1024 * (GB_SIZE * 850)))

been using that default for a few years now.

Regards,
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https://rcn-ee.com/
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Peter Robinson
2017-04-05 10:49:55 UTC
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Back home where my pile of 8 and 16 GB mSD cards are. So I can do an image
install to see how large the image actually is...
You don't state which image you're using. The Minimal image is
actually less than 2Gb
Disk /dev/sdb: 7.4 GiB, 7969177600 bytes, 15564800 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xd7636468
Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1 2048 61439 59392 29M c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdb2 * 61440 1060863 999424 488M 83 Linux
/dev/sdb3 1060864 2060287 999424 488M 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb4 2060288 7919615 5859328 2.8G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
Could you possibly reduce the size of the / partition so that the total
image is a bit smaller?
Your image requires a 3.95GB mSD card. 7919615 512 byte sectors to be exact
(or at least with the server image).
I have LOTS of 4GB in the 3.8GB size. For example the one I had with my
traveling last week is 7774208 512 byte sectors.
It is not like you have filled the / partition; there is unused space. It
would make your claim that a 4GB mSD card can be used for the image install
more likely to be true.
Or just state that better use work with a 8GB mSD card to avoid possible
overwrite errors.
My 2c worth.
Oh, and interesting that F24 fdisk reports the xfs partition as swap?
Robert
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Robert Moskowitz
2017-04-05 12:16:49 UTC
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Post by Peter Robinson
Back home where my pile of 8 and 16 GB mSD cards are. So I can do an image
install to see how large the image actually is...
You don't state which image you're using. The Minimal image is
actually less than 2Gb
I am using the server image. But I am not going to try them all to see
which ones are pushing the size limit of 4GB mSD cards.

I am 'simply' pointing out that a statement that the images fit on 4GB
cards (though I should also check that that is still in the installation
instructions), should work for all images.

And thank you for all you have done providing this distro!
Post by Peter Robinson
Disk /dev/sdb: 7.4 GiB, 7969177600 bytes, 15564800 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xd7636468
Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1 2048 61439 59392 29M c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdb2 * 61440 1060863 999424 488M 83 Linux
/dev/sdb3 1060864 2060287 999424 488M 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb4 2060288 7919615 5859328 2.8G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
Could you possibly reduce the size of the / partition so that the total
image is a bit smaller?
Your image requires a 3.95GB mSD card. 7919615 512 byte sectors to be exact
(or at least with the server image).
I have LOTS of 4GB in the 3.8GB size. For example the one I had with my
traveling last week is 7774208 512 byte sectors.
It is not like you have filled the / partition; there is unused space. It
would make your claim that a 4GB mSD card can be used for the image install
more likely to be true.
Or just state that better use work with a 8GB mSD card to avoid possible
overwrite errors.
My 2c worth.
Oh, and interesting that F24 fdisk reports the xfs partition as swap?
Robert
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Peter Robinson
2017-04-05 12:41:19 UTC
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Post by Robert Moskowitz
Post by Peter Robinson
Back home where my pile of 8 and 16 GB mSD cards are. So I can do an image
install to see how large the image actually is...
You don't state which image you're using. The Minimal image is
actually less than 2Gb
I am using the server image. But I am not going to try them all to see
which ones are pushing the size limit of 4GB mSD cards.
I am 'simply' pointing out that a statement that the images fit on 4GB cards
(though I should also check that that is still in the installation
instructions), should work for all images.
I'm not sure we've ever made a blanket statement that all images will
fit on 4Gb cards, eg there's no way Workstation would fit on 4Gb, and
in a lot of cases even if it did fit on a 4Gb image in a lot of cases
that wouldn't provide enough room to do basic things like system
updates. I will review sizes when I get a moment but I'm not going to
promise anything.
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Robert Moskowitz
2017-04-05 13:06:55 UTC
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Post by Peter Robinson
Post by Robert Moskowitz
Post by Peter Robinson
Back home where my pile of 8 and 16 GB mSD cards are. So I can do an image
install to see how large the image actually is...
You don't state which image you're using. The Minimal image is
actually less than 2Gb
I am using the server image. But I am not going to try them all to see
which ones are pushing the size limit of 4GB mSD cards.
I am 'simply' pointing out that a statement that the images fit on 4GB cards
(though I should also check that that is still in the installation
instructions), should work for all images.
I'm not sure we've ever made a blanket statement that all images will
fit on 4Gb cards, eg there's no way Workstation would fit on 4Gb, and
in a lot of cases even if it did fit on a 4Gb image in a lot of cases
that wouldn't provide enough room to do basic things like system
updates. I will review sizes when I get a moment but I'm not going to
promise anything.
Really never did expect any promises. Just stating my viewpoint.

I would like to get into a situation where I was running Fedora-arm as a
regular basis instead of as a testing platform. I would think that if
there was a touchscreen that I could run it on, I would really give it a
decent workout. But at least a 9" netbook would work...

thanks!
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Peter Robinson
2017-04-05 13:10:51 UTC
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Post by Robert Moskowitz
Post by Peter Robinson
Post by Robert Moskowitz
Post by Peter Robinson
Back home where my pile of 8 and 16 GB mSD cards are. So I can do an image
install to see how large the image actually is...
You don't state which image you're using. The Minimal image is
actually less than 2Gb
I am using the server image. But I am not going to try them all to see
which ones are pushing the size limit of 4GB mSD cards.
I am 'simply' pointing out that a statement that the images fit on 4GB cards
(though I should also check that that is still in the installation
instructions), should work for all images.
I'm not sure we've ever made a blanket statement that all images will
fit on 4Gb cards, eg there's no way Workstation would fit on 4Gb, and
in a lot of cases even if it did fit on a 4Gb image in a lot of cases
that wouldn't provide enough room to do basic things like system
updates. I will review sizes when I get a moment but I'm not going to
promise anything.
Really never did expect any promises. Just stating my viewpoint.
I would like to get into a situation where I was running Fedora-arm as a
regular basis instead of as a testing platform. I would think that if there
was a touchscreen that I could run it on, I would really give it a decent
workout. But at least a 9" netbook would work...
Sorry, we do software, not hardware design ;-)
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