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[fedora-arm] Possible Hangups on Raspberry Pi with FC25 Server
p***@gmail.com
2017-01-25 21:39:13 UTC
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Hello,

I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and I want to use it as a small server. I installed FC25 on it. The only additional piece of hardware is a bluetooth keyboard/mouse device, which is connected via usb dongle. On the software side I only installed a samba server and opened the related ports with a firewall command.
This installation is working and I can access the shared folder. However after a while - it differs - the server isn't available anymore. No ping is possible, also there is no HDMI signal anymore - the only thing I can do is restart it. I'm keeping the software up to date, but that doesn't solve the problem.
So what I would like to ask is, if there are known stability issues? Or is there something I can check and maybe fix? Maybe I could provide some details (not sure what - log doesn't tell anything usefull) to track down any issue.

Best Regards
Alex
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Daniel Laczi
2017-01-25 22:09:52 UTC
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Hi Alex,

quite a while ago I had a similar problem which turned out to be a
hardware issue. First thing you should check is the power supply.
Furthermore you could check if you have any missplaced heatsink nearby
any metal pieces. Also a metal case could probably cause problems.

Regards,
Daniel
Post by p***@gmail.com
Hello,
I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and I want to use it as a small server. I installed FC25 on it. The only additional piece of hardware is a bluetooth keyboard/mouse device, which is connected via usb dongle. On the software side I only installed a samba server and opened the related ports with a firewall command.
This installation is working and I can access the shared folder. However after a while - it differs - the server isn't available anymore. No ping is possible, also there is no HDMI signal anymore - the only thing I can do is restart it. I'm keeping the software up to date, but that doesn't solve the problem.
So what I would like to ask is, if there are known stability issues? Or is there something I can check and maybe fix? Maybe I could provide some details (not sure what - log doesn't tell anything usefull) to track down any issue.
Best Regards
Alex
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Peter Robinson
2017-01-26 08:26:05 UTC
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Post by p***@gmail.com
Hello,
I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and I want to use it as a small server. I installed FC25 on it. The only additional piece of hardware is a bluetooth keyboard/mouse device, which is connected via usb dongle. On the software side I only installed a samba server and opened the related ports with a firewall command.
This installation is working and I can access the shared folder. However after a while - it differs - the server isn't available anymore. No ping is possible, also there is no HDMI signal anymore - the only thing I can do is restart it. I'm keeping the software up to date, but that doesn't solve the problem.
So what I would like to ask is, if there are known stability issues? Or is there something I can check and maybe fix? Maybe I could provide some details (not sure what - log doesn't tell anything usefull) to track down any issue.
There's no known issues I've seen running it from a Server PoV but
there's some common issues. Do you have the storage for the share on a
USB HDD or is it just sharing space on the SD card? What model of RPi
is it and what is the amp rating on the power supply. The most common
issue is caused by a PSU that's not strong enough.
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Jan Kurik
2017-01-26 08:41:26 UTC
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Post by Peter Robinson
Post by p***@gmail.com
Hello,
I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and I want to use it as a small server. I installed FC25 on it. The only additional piece of hardware is a bluetooth keyboard/mouse device, which is connected via usb dongle. On the software side I only installed a samba server and opened the related ports with a firewall command.
This installation is working and I can access the shared folder. However after a while - it differs - the server isn't available anymore. No ping is possible, also there is no HDMI signal anymore - the only thing I can do is restart it. I'm keeping the software up to date, but that doesn't solve the problem.
So what I would like to ask is, if there are known stability issues? Or is there something I can check and maybe fix? Maybe I could provide some details (not sure what - log doesn't tell anything usefull) to track down any issue.
There's no known issues I've seen running it from a Server PoV but
there's some common issues. Do you have the storage for the share on a
USB HDD or is it just sharing space on the SD card? What model of RPi
is it and what is the amp rating on the power supply. The most common
issue is caused by a PSU that's not strong enough.
I had exactly the same issue some time ago. The strange thing was that
all USB related devices (keyboard, network card) and HDMI was not
working, but the system was still somehow alive and I was able to
find valid records in logs about the system activities. When I
equipped the RPi with more powerful PSU (5V/3A) the issue disappeared.
My conclusion is that even the RPi do not need to consume much in
average, there are some peaks when it need a lot of current. If a PSU
can not provide the required current, it survives, but USB bridge dies
(it means also NIC).

Regards,
Jan
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Peter Robinson
2017-01-26 08:46:17 UTC
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Post by Jan Kurik
Post by Peter Robinson
Post by p***@gmail.com
I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and I want to use it as a small server. I installed FC25 on it. The only additional piece of hardware is a bluetooth keyboard/mouse device, which is connected via usb dongle. On the software side I only installed a samba server and opened the related ports with a firewall command.
This installation is working and I can access the shared folder. However after a while - it differs - the server isn't available anymore. No ping is possible, also there is no HDMI signal anymore - the only thing I can do is restart it. I'm keeping the software up to date, but that doesn't solve the problem.
So what I would like to ask is, if there are known stability issues? Or is there something I can check and maybe fix? Maybe I could provide some details (not sure what - log doesn't tell anything usefull) to track down any issue.
There's no known issues I've seen running it from a Server PoV but
there's some common issues. Do you have the storage for the share on a
USB HDD or is it just sharing space on the SD card? What model of RPi
is it and what is the amp rating on the power supply. The most common
issue is caused by a PSU that's not strong enough.
I had exactly the same issue some time ago. The strange thing was that
all USB related devices (keyboard, network card) and HDMI was not
working, but the system was still somehow alive and I was able to
find valid records in logs about the system activities. When I
equipped the RPi with more powerful PSU (5V/3A) the issue disappeared.
My conclusion is that even the RPi do not need to consume much in
average, there are some peaks when it need a lot of current. If a PSU
can not provide the required current, it survives, but USB bridge dies
(it means also NIC).
Yes, USB is a big power draw as is any wireless interface. To date 90%
of stability problems with the RPi that I've seen have been due to not
having a PSU with enough guts.

Peter
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Alexander Petrenz
2017-01-26 14:13:26 UTC
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Hi,
the Pi is a 3 Model B. The output of the PSU says 5.1V and 2.5A. Is that
enough? Also I don't have any further storage connected. For sharing I'm
using some space of the 15G card where the OS is installed on.
Post by p***@gmail.com
Post by p***@gmail.com
Hello,
I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and I want to use it as a small server.
I installed FC25 on it. The only additional piece of hardware is a
bluetooth keyboard/mouse device, which is connected via usb dongle. On the
software side I only installed a samba server and opened the related ports
with a firewall command.
Post by p***@gmail.com
This installation is working and I can access the shared folder. However
after a while - it differs - the server isn't available anymore. No ping is
possible, also there is no HDMI signal anymore - the only thing I can do is
restart it. I'm keeping the software up to date, but that doesn't solve the
problem.
Post by p***@gmail.com
So what I would like to ask is, if there are known stability issues? Or
is there something I can check and maybe fix? Maybe I could provide some
details (not sure what - log doesn't tell anything usefull) to track down
any issue.
There's no known issues I've seen running it from a Server PoV but
there's some common issues. Do you have the storage for the share on a
USB HDD or is it just sharing space on the SD card? What model of RPi
is it and what is the amp rating on the power supply. The most common
issue is caused by a PSU that's not strong enough.
Winfried de Heiden
2017-01-27 07:39:29 UTC
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Hi all,

Since a couple of days I'm hit by hangups as well :( Hard to trace
since the Raspberry Pi 3 does nit react to keyboard, network etc.
anymore and the HDMI monitor goes black.... However, yesterday I was
able to take a photo before the screen goes black: Kernel Panic ...
Fatal exception in interrupt; screen shot attached!

This raspberry Pi has been running for weeks without problems on Fedora
25 using the same power.

Hmmm, any sugestions on this?


Winfried


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Alexander Petrenz
2017-01-30 21:03:16 UTC
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Hi all,

since I wasnÂŽt able to find out whatÂŽs causing those crashes I moved to
raspian and since then the Pi (it was a Gen 3, Model B) is running without
any hickups. So in the end IÂŽm sure, the issue was software related.

Alex
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Hi all,
Since a couple of days I'm hit by hangups as well :( Hard to trace since
the Raspberry Pi 3 does nit react to keyboard, network etc. anymore and the
HDMI monitor goes black.... However, yesterday I was able to take a photo
before the screen goes black: Kernel Panic ... Fatal exception in
interrupt; screen shot attached!
This raspberry Pi has been running for weeks without problems on Fedora 25
using the same power.
Hmmm, any sugestions on this?
Winfried
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*Datum*: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:13:26 +0100
*Onderwerp*: [fedora-arm] Re: Possible Hangups on Raspberry Pi with FC25
Server
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Peter Robinson
2017-01-30 23:19:01 UTC
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Post by Winfried de Heiden
Hi all,
since I wasn´t able to find out what´s causing those crashes I moved to
raspian and since then the Pi (it was a Gen 3, Model B) is running without
any hickups. So in the end I´m sure, the issue was software related.
Yes little surprise there, unless it's PSU and we're not as power
optimised as Raspbian yet.

In terms of software, other than the fact they're both Linux distros,
that link Raspbian and Fedora 25. Kernel, toolchain, their binary
display drivers etc are all different. We're all upstream and open,
it's not yet perfect but it's all open but we're not yet the most
power efficient.
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Alex
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Hi all,
Since a couple of days I'm hit by hangups as well :( Hard to trace since
the Raspberry Pi 3 does nit react to keyboard, network etc. anymore and the
HDMI monitor goes black.... However, yesterday I was able to take a photo
before the screen goes black: Kernel Panic ... Fatal exception in interrupt;
screen shot attached!
This raspberry Pi has been running for weeks without problems on Fedora 25
using the same power.
Hmmm, any sugestions on this?
Winfried
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Datum: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:13:26 +0100
Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Possible Hangups on Raspberry Pi with FC25
Server
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Daniel Laczi
2017-01-30 23:44:08 UTC
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On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Alexander Petrenz
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Hi all,
since I wasnÂŽt able to find out whatÂŽs causing those crashes I moved
to
Post by Winfried de Heiden
raspian and since then the Pi (it was a Gen 3, Model B) is running
without
Post by Winfried de Heiden
any hickups. So in the end IÂŽm sure, the issue was software related.
Yes little surprise there, unless it's PSU and we're not as power
optimised as Raspbian yet.
In terms of software, other than the fact they're both Linux distros,
that link Raspbian and Fedora 25. Kernel, toolchain, their binary
display drivers etc are all different. We're all upstream and open,
it's not yet perfect but it's all open but we're not yet the most
power efficient.
Fedora might not be perfect if your doing client stuff and need display drivers. However it is really great if you need a small server, because it is the only maintained distro for the Raspian shipping SELinux by default! Thanks for anything your doing Peter ;)
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Alex
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Hi all,
Since a couple of days I'm hit by hangups as well :( Hard to trace
since
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
the Raspberry Pi 3 does nit react to keyboard, network etc. anymore
and the
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
HDMI monitor goes black.... However, yesterday I was able to take a
photo
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
before the screen goes black: Kernel Panic ... Fatal exception in
interrupt;
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
screen shot attached!
This raspberry Pi has been running for weeks without problems on
Fedora 25
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
using the same power.
Hmmm, any sugestions on this?
Winfried
-----Oorspronkelijke bericht-----
Datum: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:13:26 +0100
Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Possible Hangups on Raspberry Pi with
FC25
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Server
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Peter Robinson
2017-01-31 08:26:46 UTC
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Am 31. Januar 2017 00:19:01 MEZ schrieb Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Alexander Petrenz
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Hi all,
since I wasn´t able to find out what´s causing those crashes I moved
to
Post by Winfried de Heiden
raspian and since then the Pi (it was a Gen 3, Model B) is running
without
Post by Winfried de Heiden
any hickups. So in the end I´m sure, the issue was software related.
Yes little surprise there, unless it's PSU and we're not as power
optimised as Raspbian yet.
In terms of software, other than the fact they're both Linux distros,
that link Raspbian and Fedora 25. Kernel, toolchain, their binary
display drivers etc are all different. We're all upstream and open,
it's not yet perfect but it's all open but we're not yet the most
power efficient.
Fedora might not be perfect if your doing client stuff and need display
drivers. However it is really great if you need a small server, because it
is the only maintained distro for the Raspian shipping SELinux by default!
In the case of the small server stuff I would be using the Fedora
Server (awesome web management UX) or minimal editions and not any
spin with a GUI as it'll give more resources to the server bits as GUI
desktops reserve memory for GPU processing. :-)
Thanks for anything your doing Peter ;)
I knew F-25 wasn't perfect and that there would be teething issues but
then if the world waited on perfect there wouldn't be a release (or a
RPi). We've already shipped a number of perf improvements in the F-25
cycle with more to come and F-26 should be a decent bump up in all
respects there too.

Peter
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Alex
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Hi all,
Since a couple of days I'm hit by hangups as well :( Hard to trace
since
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
the Raspberry Pi 3 does nit react to keyboard, network etc. anymore
and the
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
HDMI monitor goes black.... However, yesterday I was able to take a
photo
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
before the screen goes black: Kernel Panic ... Fatal exception in
interrupt;
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
screen shot attached!
This raspberry Pi has been running for weeks without problems on
Fedora 25
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
using the same power.
Hmmm, any sugestions on this?
Winfried
-----Oorspronkelijke bericht-----
Datum: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:13:26 +0100
Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Possible Hangups on Raspberry Pi with
FC25
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Server
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Alexander Petrenz
2017-02-06 09:00:43 UTC
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Post by Daniel Laczi
Am 31. Januar 2017 00:19:01 MEZ schrieb Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Alexander Petrenz
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Hi all,
since I wasnÂŽt able to find out whatÂŽs causing those crashes I moved
to
Post by Winfried de Heiden
raspian and since then the Pi (it was a Gen 3, Model B) is running
without
Post by Winfried de Heiden
any hickups. So in the end IÂŽm sure, the issue was software related.
Yes little surprise there, unless it's PSU and we're not as power
optimised as Raspbian yet.
In terms of software, other than the fact they're both Linux distros,
that link Raspbian and Fedora 25. Kernel, toolchain, their binary
display drivers etc are all different. We're all upstream and open,
it's not yet perfect but it's all open but we're not yet the most
power efficient.
Fedora might not be perfect if your doing client stuff and need display
drivers. However it is really great if you need a small server, because
it
is the only maintained distro for the Raspian shipping SELinux by
default!
In the case of the small server stuff I would be using the Fedora
Server (awesome web management UX) or minimal editions and not any
spin with a GUI as it'll give more resources to the server bits as GUI
desktops reserve memory for GPU processing. :-)
That was exactly my intention and since I like the FOSS idea and the
community behind that, I used the FC25 server image and started with
installing samba. For the beginning I wanted to setup a local network file
share. I had the HDMI cable connected, but always used ssh and I didn't
installed any desktop environment.
However I still had those crashes. I would love to provide some more
information on the cause (if they are not already known), so it can be
fixed. On the other hand I would need some hints how to do that, since I'm
not very experienced in Linux debugging yet.

Alex
Post by Daniel Laczi
Thanks for anything your doing Peter ;)
I knew F-25 wasn't perfect and that there would be teething issues but
then if the world waited on perfect there wouldn't be a release (or a
RPi). We've already shipped a number of perf improvements in the F-25
cycle with more to come and F-26 should be a decent bump up in all
respects there too.
Peter
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Alex
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Hi all,
Since a couple of days I'm hit by hangups as well :( Hard to trace
since
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
the Raspberry Pi 3 does nit react to keyboard, network etc. anymore
and the
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
HDMI monitor goes black.... However, yesterday I was able to take a
photo
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
before the screen goes black: Kernel Panic ... Fatal exception in
interrupt;
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
screen shot attached!
This raspberry Pi has been running for weeks without problems on
Fedora 25
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
using the same power.
Hmmm, any sugestions on this?
Winfried
-----Oorspronkelijke bericht-----
Datum: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:13:26 +0100
Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Possible Hangups on Raspberry Pi with
FC25
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Post by Winfried de Heiden
Server
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